we're oldish and so things start working in different intensities at a certain point for guys, so depending how hard he gets sometimes, it's like I get to play with a different penis & I love it lololol but I got a GREAT detailed story to share occasionally (just not here) 😁 I know our shit can stretch, but there's limits and it needs to be HIGHLY aroused for the most part (short of birth) to get there. Months later I eventually tried it out myself. They'd all been friends since a young age so yes they knew what his dick was all about. I'd heard it talked about since I'd met the group he ran with. I had someone once who while was alright in girth but was over 12'.